GET RID OF IT! LEAVE IT OUT OF YOUR WALET, CAR OR ANYWHERE IT COULD EVER BE SEEN! AND NEVER HAVE A BADGE WALLET FOR IT AND YOUR PERMIT! Having been a police officer (and a retired Sergeant) for 30 years, take my advice on this one!!!!! I was just approached by a long time friend, who attempted to proudly show me his new "CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMIT HOLDER" badge. When I told him to lose it, he was initally shocked. The advertisement he read for it and the recomendation that he got to purchase it from an instructor, led him to believe that he was proudly able to distinguish himself between the good guys and the bad guys. He was so excited to advise how if he had to have any involvment with his gun and permit, law enforcement would now know that he was not the bad guy. It was a shiny new gold badge that if properly viewed, would not in any way imply that he was a law enforcement officer. I explained my involvement with these and other badges that people carry, Even some silly ones that advise "designated driver" etc... My initial involvement with non law enforcement officers possessing badges, occurred when I was training a new officer. We were conducting traffic stop training. The new (green) officer was stopping one of his first cars, for a Stop Sign infraction. I had gone over the sequence of events with the recruit and clearly thought I knew what he was going to do. Ask for the drivers license, registration and proof of insurance. The impressionable young officer was then going to explain to the violator the reason for the traffic stop and come back to the patrol car. We had not discussed weather a citation (ticket) or warning was going to be issued. I expected to discuss weather the violator realized what he had done, weather he was remorseful or not etc... when we were back in the patrol car. I assumed a back up officers position on the passengers side of the car and did not have a clear view of what my trainee was observing when I heard "I just wanted to give you a warning about passing the stop sign back there, have a nice day" and the recruit started toward the rear of the car without ever getting the violators paperwork. I was schocked, I asked what the heck was that all about?, as the car started to drive away. My recruit stated "its OK he has a badge in his wallet". I asked what the badge said on it and what the ID for the badge said and where the violator worked. The recruit stated "right you really expected me to check all that" I asked was it a police badge? His reply was "DUH of course". I stated OK rookie now hurry up and stop that same car again before it gets away. He couldn't believe me, we caught up with the car and stopped it again. This time I crossed over and had the recruit follow me to the driver. I inquired excuse me sir, but my trainee observed your police badge, I need to know where you work. With this the violator stated "I don't have a police badge". I then asked ok then my recruit is blind, where do you work?????? His response was "I am not working right now" the Q&A went on and on for a short perioid of time, with the driver being evasive. The long and skinny of it was that the violator was a terminated ex security officer. He had not returned an extra security badge he had taken from the company that fired him. He had no ID card. A representitive of that company responded within minutes took possession of the badge and not want to prosecute the violator. The violator got his Stop Sign citation and a few extras for additional viiolations he had committed (Registration not carried, expired proof of insurance and bald tires). The recruit admitted he only saw a "flash of the badge and was intimadated and was too frightened to confront someone that was probably more expierenced than he was. I have seen this routine over and over and usually it is with a "Concealed Weapons Permit Holder" badge. A department meeting confirmed that other officers (including expierenced officers) frequently do not persue a furtherence of identification after a "Flash of a badge" is observed. Additional training was done and this was found to have been a common occurrence, with the drivers (violators) sometimes even making proud comments like "its Ok, I'm a good guy also" and other comments with a flash of the badge during traffic stops and other citizen encounters, leading officers to believe that they were infact out with another Police Officer. I have come to find out while researching this topic that there have been more than a unbelivible ammount of arrests for "Impersonating a Police Officer for the mere possession of these badges. The charges are usually dropped by the state, however, the badge CCW permit and gun are taken (and probably returned to most at later dates), cars towed untold amounts of attorneys fees paid. This is all over badges that are not issued by the state with your permit. I will not comment on the arrests that I am not familier with as to what the badge holder did or stated to get locked up. However, all recient training I have gotten is to never give any warnings or breaks to persons with these badges. PERIOD!! The training is that all persons with these badges are potential Officer Safety Hazzards, as these should never come into view or be displayed by any law abiding citizen. Bad guys can get them from the rear of gun magazines. They can give an officer a false sence of security. They will probably get you detained at the least and your gun checked through teletype etc... My last training was to specifically "jack pot" (write every citation that you can no matter what) to CCW badge holders and to give the highest degree of respect to those that dont' have the badges. It is the position of most police officers and admistrators, that the mere possession of these badges is for the specific purpose of "to try to get out of a ticket" and that practice needs to be stopped swiftly. CCW Badge holders are to be told that all the extra trouble, expence and points on their drivers license was due to their posession and or display of their badge. Never lie if there is a gun in the car, be truthful, keep your hands in plain view and your permit close by but also not displayed. Abide by your state law if it requires disclosure of a gun. Also consider that all officers are not gun lovers and some are not 2nd ammendment friendly. I am an NRA instructor and a firearms enthuesiast, I usually just give warnings to honest CCW permit holders that are up front to me, so that I dont have to get into an uncomfortable position when a gun comes into play. I want to have and give the highest degree of respect to all permit holders and law abiding citizens. However I must admit I also subscribe to the philopsophy of the "trying to get out of a ticket" mindset. If I observe one of these badges I will give you a negative expierence you wont forget if I observe one of these badges on a traffif stop. Think about it, if you ever needed to use your gun, you might have been the bad guy, in a road rage incident or just used excessive use of force or brandished it inappropriatel. What ever you have gotten involved in, that badge will probably only get you in more trouble and you have no business trying to steer an officer into making a decision prior to making a proper investigation.